Chas reels as she realises what Debbie is saying. Debbie insists that it's the truth and slowly the stories ring true for Chas. Chas asks to hear the Dictaphone again, but soon Debbie is scared as an emotional Chas shouts at her, thinking Debbie was part of it all too. Chas is stunned that Debbie knew Cameron killed Carl and didn't say anything.